What is the PNE II?
The Pacific Northwest Expedition II is a data gathering and research group whose goals are to unite scientists, journalists, woodsmen and trackers in a network of up-to-date information on the subject of Bigfoot/Sasquatch. One of the goals of this information collation is obviously to finally pinpoint an area where a Bigfoot/Sasquatch exists, and thereafter to track, film or capture one for scientific study. In order to insure that such an environment of data gathering remains rigorously based on actual facts PNE II members are asked to remain very low key about the organization’s existence and about their membership in it. This is to allow the members engaging in field research and data gathering and/or reporting to work in an environment relatively free of hoaxers and pranksters.
At this point PNE II is primarily data gathering, building up its membership in vital areas of the Pacific Northwest where Bigfoot/Sasquatch has traditionally and historically been said to live and provide the most sightings. Members and Affiliate Members are expected to freely (and in a timely manner) relay information to other members which will be used to evaluate recent activity. No information should be overlooked.
In order to achieve the atmosphere that PNE II wishes to maintain, the organization is not open to application. Rather, members are recruited. As a research group, membership obviously does not cost any money at any time whatsoever. The costs that are incurred are those which any member wishes to invest in his own personal follow up and field investigation of a report. All data that is gathered is to be shared by all. If a sighting or report is made within close enough distance to a member’s home, the member is expected to provide, if possible, some field investigation, whether telephone contact, on sight investigation, taking plaster casts, depositions, and for those more literary members to write reports on the incident. With time, members should become familiar with how to grade the importance of a sighting, whether it is probable, possible or unlikely— the last being a mere misidentification or fabrication.
Those members who are not comfortable with writing their own report on an incident may go through an Anchor Member. An Anchor Member is simply that: a member who is a key person in a specific area through which data is processed. Any member or Anchor Member is encouraged to build up reliable contacts in his state or province.
Affiliate Members relate recent incidents, reports, and even rumors so that active Members can act upon this. The reason why some wish to remain Affiliate Members are many and varied. Some may be in sensitive positions, even in the public eye, and do not wish to spend the time personally investigating or do not want any notoriety for investigating Bigfoot. Members are those dedicated to spending at least some time following up and attempting to verify reports in their vicinity. If PNE II becomes publicly known, these members should not mind publicity whereas Affiliate Members may continue to remain completely secret. Affiliate Members may also be scientists who examine data but who for professional reasons want no notoriety associated with active Bigfoot research.
PNE II does not and cannot control its members. It is a free organization of investigation and data gathering. No member is financially obliged to another or to PNE and vice versa. Nor is any member responsible for the actions of other members. Due to the fact that this is an active and serious expedition, all members should act with regard for the fact that other people and their reputations are involved in the overall projects and goals. PNE II’s tight recruitment helps insure a relaxed and trustworthy atmosphere between its members.
Not much time or effort is really required to be members in PNE II. What is required is to have an aptitude and enthusiasm for collecting data, analyzing it and, first off, of course, keeping a ready eye and ear open in order to relate data. A sharp and skeptical wit is essential. PNE II is composed of scientists, authors, woodsmen, media, trackers, shooters and honorary members and technical advisors. All are committed to a serious approach on the subject of Bigfoot/Sasquatch.
Although each member may be engaging in his/her own field investigations and providing PNE II with the result of this, group field investigations may be organized by PNE II from time to time at which a number of members may volunteer to participate. These will be titled according to the project, and they will be concentrated where data indicates a high probability for tracking a Sasquatch or getting more data that can only be achieved in a group field project.
Why the name Pacific Northwest Expedition II?
Those within Bigfootery know of PNE, the first organization that existed. Begun by millionaire oilman Tom Slick in 1958, it contained some of the most well known “old Bigfooters” there were, like René Dahinden, John Green, Bob Titmus, Ivan Sanderson, and Peter Byrne. With Slick’s death in 1962 by airplane crash, PNE broke apart. During its 4 years its members stayed in touch, followed up on track reports, witness sightings and some personally hunted for Bigfoot. All data was sent to Slick’s labs in Texas for evaluation. With Slick’s death there came the death of any centralized organization to collate data with the object of finally directing a concerted search. All the data was lost or destroyed at his death.
PNE II seeks to fill in the gap that was left by the loss of such an organization. It has no affiliation nor is it a continuation of PNE. However, in scope and concept it finds a similar identity. Therefore the name was chosen, and the Roman numerals marking it as II distinguish it from the original.
Pacific Northwest Expedition II’s Scope
States and provinces where Sasquatch is most likely to live are marked in red.
States and Provinces where PNE II members have conducted field research or followed up on gathering firsthand data on sightings. PNE II in its early stage is clearly concentrated in Canada. These cases involve the Bobby Clark/Lake Winnipeg film of April 2005 and the Yukon/Teslin sighting of 2005. California’s have all been misidentification of known animals.
PNE II’s Significance
There may be websites and PO Box mailing addresses selling videos and T-shirts, but PNE II’s purpose is far different. Unlike the original PNE, PNE II has remained entirely secret for almost 3 years. It has not solicited reports. Though there is the claim that many such research groups exist, in substance they continue to merely be outlets for any odd claim. This only invites numerous erratic minds and hoaxers. PNE II is not interested in circulating hearsay and enforcing popular impressions. PNE II strives for an environment that is conducive to preserving the purity and probability of the incoming data. Therefore in order to preserve PNE II’s significance, members must be careful in how they represent themselves at field investigations that are not entirely made up of PNE II members, in questioning locals and eyewitnesses, and in how they conduct their own timely hunts independent of PNE II.
This is something that PNE did not do. The upshot was that it accumulated a skewed dossier of contradictory claims and descriptions. Modern research groups are essentially the victims of this, misguided even as to what Sasquatch looks like, where it lives and what kind of footprint it makes. PNE was also essentially guided by “glory and cash prize” seeking hunters and woodsmen who engaged in no appreciable analysis. PNE II is subjected to the standards of both science, exploration and journalism.
PNE II Beginnings
PNE II was begun by author Gian J. Quasar in 2004 in order to provide a centralizing point and directions for serious researchers and trackers in Sasquatch. Internationally known as a serious researcher himself, his work has been the subject of numerous documentaries in many fields. His reputation and research has also underpinned a Congressional Resolution which passed overwhelmingly (420 to 2) on November 17, 2005, and was backed by both SCI-FI Channel, NBC NEWS Productions, PodestaMattoon lobbyists in Washington DC, and sponsored by Congressman E. Clay Shaw.
The Purpose of this Packet
PNE II is the byproduct of Quasar’s extensively researched nonfiction exposé Recasting Bigfoot. In his work he backtracked the subject to its beginning. This revealed how much hoax and pranking has actually created the modern image of “Bigfoot.” The packet contains vital data which will aid the PNE II member and affiliate from being sidetracked by patently fatuous data, claims and reports.
Actual Description of Sasquatch
Today, it is subject to many fancies. However, 19th century research, Indian legends and modern sightings from reliable witnesses provide us with a consistent mug shot. More importantly, they provide some clues that are not popularly known. Knowing these, the PNE II investigator is at an advantage.
Sasquatch is apparently two species, as the Indians always maintained there were “two tribes” that were constantly at war. One appears to be ameranthropoides loysi, named after French geologist Francois de Loys who killed one of a pair attacking him and his expedition in South America in 1920. From Central Amerindian legends and artwork it can be deduced that they have migrated north. They always travel in a pair male and female. In 1869 there is the story in the Antioch Ledger of a hunter seeing a pair of “gorilla-like” creatures, male and female, near Orestimba Creek, California. His descriptions fit almost perfectly ameranthropoides loysi (de Loys took a picture of the corpse). Their size is between 5 to 6 feet.
“Sasquatch-men” are almost invariably regarded as violent. The evidence suggests that this is due to something startling. They are not anthropoids or apes. They appear to be giant versions of monkeys, appearing very much like the Ateledae sub family of the Family Cebidae. Though tailless, giant and bipedal, they seem to retain all the features of this family of monkeys, notably Spider and Howler monkeys. Such monkeys if not raised around humans invariably react violently when seeing them.
Being giant monkeys, they have longer hind legs, thus giving them a humanoid appearance. All other features seem to match Cebidae family monkeys. They are no doubt Platarrhynian. Indian totems in British Columbia preserve key features which indicate Spider Monkeys. These features were also confirmed in ameranthropoides loysi.
The giant version we most frequently associate with “Sasquatch” is said to also resemble a giant of the Cebidae family. It howls like only monkeys howl and has a long foot, though no offset toe. Like such monkeys, Sasquatch is said to have no “thumb.” It has five fingers. British Columbian Indians have always called them Karakawas. White man has associated this with the Texas tribe of Karakawas. However, phonetically it seems to suggest the South American Curinqueans, a giant ogre tribe of man-faced monsters in Brazil which Jesuit Father Simão de Vasconcellas describes in Noticias Curiosas e Necesarias das Cosas do Brasil in the 18th century.
Alexander von Humboldt reported in 1799 that when he reached the rapids of the Orinoco River (first white man to do so) he heard of a giant “hairy wild man of the woods” that supposedly built huts, carried off women and ate human flesh. He discovered that even the missionaries in the neighboring countryside believed in “vasitri,” as the natives called it— “big devil.”
Such descriptions are identical to those found for Sasquatch in British Columbia. “Sasquatch-men” were always called a “cannibal” people because they ate humans. Indians around Mt. Saint. Helens warned artist Paul Kane in 1847 that a different species called the skoocums lived on the mountain and ate people.
Habitat
Seems fairly adaptable considering its origins are probably South America. It is primarily a mountain dwelling creature, not a forest dwelling creature. It comes down from the mountains to forage. This may explain why it is seen more in October and not during the hot summer and spring months. This is something which PNE II members must remember: It is a mountain creature which in Canada does not care for prolonged exposure to heat.
FOOTPRINT
See articles on website:
The above are the best examples of the correct footprint. The one at far left is the tracing done by officer Joe Dunn at Ruby Creek, 1941, the first imprint actually taken. The middle print is the Pas Print, Manitoba, 1973. The last is The Manitoba 1988 Print dug out of a road by the Royal Canadian Mounted Police in 1988, also in Manitoba. The footprints are noted to be from 16 to 21 inches in length. Sasquatch is noted to have a long, narrow heel. This feature has been reported as far back as 1818. Each illustration above was either taken or photographed by police or conservation officers.
Sasquatch either has 4 or 5 toes that are even across. They do not curve at an angle to the small toe as in humans. Its foot is wide at the toes and ball and tapers to a strange narrow heel. The dilemma between 4 or 5 toes can be found even in 19th century reports.
What is NOT a Sasquatch trait
Sasquatch does not have a human foot! This began only around Bluff Creek, California, 1958 and can be traced back no further. Ray Wallace was the hoaxer. After he died in 2002, his family went public that he created Bigfoot. Please see SUPPLEMENTAL on the evolution of Bigfoot footprints. Sasquatch does not have a CONICAL HEAD. This stems from confusing it with reports of the YETI. See SUPPLEMENTAL: Comparisons Between Sasquatch & Yeti.
Reliable Reports
The two eyewitness sightings reproduced here will give the investigator an example of what constitutes a good sighting.
1) William Roe, trapper, woodsman. He filed a legal affidavit at the request of John Green in 1957. It follows:
Exhibit A
Ever since I was a small boy back in the forests of Michigan, I have studied the lives and habits of wild animals. Later, when I supported my family in northern Alberta by hunting and trapping, I spent many hours just observing the wild things. They fascinated me. But the most incredible experience I ever had with a wild creature occurred near a little place called Tete Jaune Cache, B.C., about 80 miles west of Jasper, Alberta.
I had been working on the highway near this place, Tete Jaune Cache, for about two years. In October, 1955, I decided to climb 5* miles up Mica Mountain to an old deserted mine, just for something to do. I came in sight of the mine about three o’clock in the afternoon after an easy climb. I had just come out a patch of low brush into a clearing, when I saw what I thought was a grizzly bear in the brush on the other side. I had shot a grizzly near that spot the year before. This one was only about 75 yards away, but I didn’t want to shoot it, for I had no way of getting it out. So I sat down on a small rock and watched, my rifle in my hands.
I could just see part of the animal’s head and the top of one shoulder. A moment later it raised up and stepped out into the opening. Then I saw that it wasn’t a bear.
This, to the best of my recollection, is what the creature looked like and how it acted as it came across the clearing directly towards me. My first impression was of a huge man about 6 feet tall, about 3 feet wide, and probably weighing somewhere near 300 pounds. It was covered from head to foot with dark brown, silver-tipped hair. But as it came closer I saw by its breasts that it was female.
And yet, its torso was not curved like a female’s. Its broad frame was straight from shoulder to hip. Its arms were much thicker than a man’s arms, and longer, reaching almost to its knees. Its feet were broader proportionately than a man’s, about 5 inches wide in front and tapering to much thinner heels. When it walked it placed the heel of its foot down first, and I could see the gray brown skin or hide on the soles of its feet.
It came to the edge of the brush I was hiding in, within 20 feet of me, and squatted down on its haunches. Reaching out its hands it pulled the branches of bushes toward it and stripped the leaves with its teeth. Its lips curled flexibly around the leaves as it ate. I was close enough to see that its teeth were white and even.
The shape of the creature’s head somewhat resemble the Negro’s. The head was higher at the back than at the front. The nose was broad and flat. The lips and chin protruded further than its nose. But the hair that covered it, leaving bare only the parts of the face around the mouth, nose and ears, made it resemble an animal as much as a human. None of its hair, even on the back of its head, was longer than an inch, and that on its face much shorter. Its ears were shaped like a human’s ears. But it eyes were small and black like a bear’s. And its neck also was unhuman, thicker and shorter than any man’s I had ever seen.
As I watched this creature I wondered if some movie company was making a film in this place and that what I saw was an actor made up to look partly human and partly animal. But as I observed it more I decided it would be impossible to fake such a specimen. Anyway, I learned later that there was no such company near that area. Nor, in fact, did anyone live up Mica Mountain, according to the people who lived in Tete Jaune Cache.
Finally, the wild thing must have got my scent, for it looked directly at me through an opening in the brush. A look of amazement crossed its face. It looked so comical at that moment I had to grin. Still in a crouched position, it back up three or four short steps, and straightened up to its full height and started to walk rapidly back the way it had come. For a moment it watched me over its shoulder as it went, not exactly afraid, but as though it wanted no contact with anything strange. The thought came to me that if I shot it I would possibly have a specimen of great interest to scientists the world over. I had heard stories about the Sasquatch, the giant hairy Indians that live in the legend of the Indians of British Columbia, and also, many claim are still, in fact, alive today. Maybe this was the Sasquatch, I told myself.
I levelled my rifle. The creature was still walking rapidly away, again turning its head to look in my direction. I lowered the rifle. Although I have called the creature ‘it,’ I felt now that it was a human being, and I knew I would never forgive myself if I killed it.
Just as it came to the other patch of brush it threw back its head and made a peculiar noise that seemed to be half laugh and half language, and which I could only described as a kind of a whinny. Then it walked from the small brush into a stand of lodge-pole pines.
I stepped out into the opening and looked across a small ridge just beyond the pine to see if I could see it again. It came out on the ridge a couple of hundred yards away from me, tipped its head back again, and again emitted the only sound I had heard it make, but what this half-laugh, half-language was meant to convey I do not know. It disappeared then, and I never saw it again.
I wanted to find out if it lived on vegetation entirely or ate meat as well, so I went down and looked for signs. I found it in five different places, and although I examined it thoroughly, I could find no hair or shells or bugs or insects. So I believe it was strictly a vegetarian.
I found one place where it had slept for a couple of nights under a tree. Now, the nights were cool up the mountain, at this time of year especially, and yet it had not used a fire. I found no signs that it possessed even the simplest of tools. Nor did I find any signs that it had a single companion while in this place.
Whether this creature was a Sasquatch I do not know. It will always remain a mystery to me unless another one is found.
I hereby declare the above statement to be in every part true, to the best of my powers of observation and recollection.
End Affidavit.
Based on William Roe’s own sketch of what he saw on Mica Mountain, 1955. The female was 6 or 7 foot tall, 500 pounds, thick, almost completely round. Females do not have wide hips. See website article Roe’s Sasquatch.
Bull Sasquatches may have more of a sloping head, but it is nothing like in a gorilla.
2) Another one of the most impressive accounts comes from a deputy sheriff, Thomas E. Dillon, badge 2007, of Clearwater County, Idaho, while on duty on the night of October 25, 1979, while he was approximately 1.2 miles over French Mountain Saddle. Report heading: “Sighting of an unknown type animal.” His affidavit, given November 11 of that year, reads:
While on a routine patrol on French Mountain Road, at approximately 0300 hours, this officer did observe, heading towards Bungalow, it was a foggy night, slight rain mist falling. While on routine patrol I did observe out of my peripheral vision something which I determined to be an animal. I backed up, took a handheld 300,000 candlepower spotlight, put it on this thing, at the first sighting it was approximately 15 yards away and moving away from me, but I saw was a hairy animal covered in longish, matted unclean-looking brown hair, approximately the color of an elk’s coat. This animal was moving away at a high rate of speed, it was approximately 8 to 8 1/2 feet tall, approximately 3 to 3 1/2 feet wide shoulders. I followed it for approximately 80 yards with my spotlight up a ravine, uphill, it covered this 80 yards in approximately 4 to 5 seconds. The animal was not moving in a jerky motion, but had a very fluid stride and approximately 5 to 6 foot span between his strides.
Returned to the seen the next day, did not find any tracks due to the rain, however I did find where it went through a patch of buck brush and did break the brush, no hair or other physical signs at the scene. I came to my realization as to the height from the comparison on the tree that it went by, where the animal's head was approximately 2 feet higher than mine.
As I said, I followed this animal for approximately 80 yards with my spotlight, it went up the ravine, uphill, covered this 80 yards in 4 to 5 seconds, moving at an extremely high rate of speed, going up the hill, it was running in a straddly type motion, throwing its legs to the sides, very rarely bending them. It had long arms, it was extremely powerfully built. The feeling I got from this animal was that it was extremely powerful, possibly dangerous. I did not exit my patrol vehicle at the time.
I believe that what I saw is what is called a Big Foot or Sasquatch.
Walk like a Sasquatch
Dillon’s report confirms the inhuman manner with which the creature walks: it walks more like an ape— abducting the hip in a speedy way. No hoaxer can imitate this. The famous Patterson Film, now discredited, has its subject walking in a very human-like manner. No human can imitate the Sasquatch. Hoaxers do not know this. Since many adamantly cling to the Patterson Film as reliable, hoaxers continue to claim that the creature “walked like a man” when they report one. The creature walks on both legs . . . but not like a human.
Look like a Sasquatch
Due to the immense popularity in the late 1950s for the Yeti in the Himalayas, the “Bigfoot” or Sasquatch was equated with being the American version of it. Therefore hoaxers and easily-influenced witnesses often saw one sporting a conical head. The Yeti is faithfully and repeatedly described as having a conical head. This can be found in 19th century reports as well. However, Sasquatch has never been reported in 19th century reports as having a conical head. It is considered far more manlike whereas the Yeti is and has always been considered some form of giant ape.
The Patterson Film is an excellent example of an uniformed hoaxer’s creation. “Bigfoot” has breasts and walks like a man. It also has a conical head. Roe was clear that at the very least females do not have a conical head. Because Ray Wallace popularized the enlarged human footprint as an authentic Sasquatch footprint, Patterson’s creature had a similar, very similar foot to Wallace’s distinctive carved wooden fakes. Patterson’s creature thus becomes a humorous amalgam.
Sasquatch Patterns
Reliable reports indicate that Sasquatch is indeed seen and reported far more frequently in October. This could indicate foraging to store up for the Fall. Sasquatch is seldom reported in winter because people do not traverse the mountains frequently at that time. October, however, is Sasquatch month, with September and November being good also. Spring would be the next best time to see one, before it gets too warm.
Diet
Sasquatch eats anything. When personally investigating in the field the PNE II member must be aware of any changes in their area in food supply, noting berry bushes that are usually full that are now stripped of fruit; game deficiencies where the supply was once plentiful, etc.
Taking Samples
Samples (and photos) of anything unusual or samples of things found at and around sightings should be taken, whether this is a plaster cast of a footprint or depression, hair, blood, etc.
Witness Depositions
Depositions should be solicited if possible, or the members should recall the witness testimony accurately enough to write an account of it.
The data this provides helps to build the dossier on the real Sasquatch and not on the garish hoaxes that have been perpetrated. This sort of material is essential for PNE II before any major concerted field project can be contemplated. It helps plot movements, concentrations and helps direct it to areas where a search will have some beneficial result.
SUPPLEMENTAL 1
The Sasquatch and Yeti compared.
See Yeti and Roe Sasquatch pages.
Illustrations are based on eyewitness testimony spanning over a century. The Yeti, right, is from 5 to 6 foot tall at best. It stoops, has cinnamon colored hair, quite long on its conical head. It also has a crest on its head of bristly like hair running from the brow to the back. It will go down on all fours when chasing cattle. Hair is thickets on hips, thighs and stomach. It has long arms.
Sasquatch, left, can range from 6 to 9 feet. Females are round, males narrow in hips with short dark brown hair all over. Negroid or charcoal colored skin. Never goes down on all fours
Supplemental 2
Chronological footprint comparisons (Gian J. Quasar)
Let’s take a look in chronological order at all the major Bigfoot/Sasquatch footprint casts and tracings that have been made since 1941.
I must make a note here before beginning: Despite decades of interest in the reality of Sasquatch, there has never been any systematic chronological analysis (or even compilation) of footprints. This has allowed “Bigfoot,” a California hoax, to masquerade as “Sasquatch” for decades. Because of this the real Sasquatch has been dangerously obscured. To read most “enthusiast” driven articles on Bigfoot/Sasquatch is to be ingrained with a perspective that is dangerously one-sided and skewed toward accepting almost every report and claim made, no matter how contradictory. Scientific response to or debunking of the assertions made in such publications is therefore also of little merit since it is disputing claims that had no foundation to begin with and whose only tangibility is hearsay. It is time to start weeding out truth from falsehood so that discussions on this subject can finally advance.
There is no better way than a chronological analysis of the data and the case sightings to see what picture they paint. Let’s stick here to a look at the only tangible evidence there has ever truly been: footprints.
It is amazing that for a subject nicknamed or outright titled “Bigfoot” that a chronological compilation of footprint casts has never been done. The following constitutes “Exhibit A.”
See article on website Bigfoot Print Comparisons.
PNE II’s purpose is well on its way: to recast Bigfoot. Don’t be afraid to see what you see or ask what you ask. But know what to ask and what you are looking for. Don’t let each case stand alone. There is a foundation in Bigfoot/Sasquatch that cannot be overlooked and must be used to help build the dossier. What PNE II must do is overlook about 40 years of hype and hyperbole. This short packet is one example of a retracing of the track of Sasquatch. Now committed members must track it onward.
2006 Members’ Packet Revised (Online Version)
On the Trail of the Sasquatch
Exposing the truth about Bigfoot
